On 11/23/2011 01:29 PM, Mikies Runs Baal wrote:
> Actually, certain types of porn are illegal, not only in this country
> (USA), but other countries internationally.
> Secondly, speaking to the vagueness alluded to, all laws tend to be
> somewhat vague.
> As with all law, there has to be probable cause for an action to be
> initiated. This bill is no different, and further, spells out
> consequences for filing false reports by the copyright holder et al.
> After reading it from beginning to end, I, personally, think it is a
> good law. If enacted, it might give us the right to circumvent
> encryption protections on DVD and rip licensed copies to our personal
> computer or other digital devices strictly for personal use much like
> the current RIAA guideleines for ripping our music CD's to our personal
> devices. This would, of course, have to be tested with a lawsuit
> contesting the restrictions imposed by the DMCA on ripping DVD's with
> copy protection. This might be defended as a moot point since almost all
> DVD's I have bought within the last year now include a code for d/l'ing
> a digital copy to a personal digital device including my laptop or other
> Currently, court decisions (case laws) under the DMCA make it illegal to
> circumvent the encryption protections, but does NOT speak to the rights
> of licensed copy owners to rip for personal use on their digital
> devices. A close read of this law suggests it might be used to counter
> the DMCA on DVD's for personal use.
> As with all copyright issues, the licensed user MUST maintain a
> permanent copy of the original CD/DVD for "Fair Use Laws" to apply. Give
> away the original, lose the rights to the copy...
> I have an extensive library of VHS and DVD originals that have
> encryption protection in place. VHS's have a limited life-expectancy.
> So, I would definitely love to be able to convert to a DVD format, and
> since my laptop is my primary entertainment system when I am not home, I
> would love to be able to convert my entire library to digital format and
> store on my laptop or external HDD drive for portability.
> I would encourage everyone to read the the bill in its entirety.
> Here are the link/s again (all available links I could find, btw)
> online: http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h112-3261
> PDF: http://judiciary.house.gov/hearings/pdf/112%20HR%203261.pdf
> online: http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c112:h3261
> Takes a couple hours to wade throught the text.
> On 11/23/2011 9:10 AM, Eric Rasmussen wrote:
>> Has anyone signed the whitehouse.gov
>> I've never e-signed a whitehouse petition so I'm curious to know
>> everyone's thoughts on whether or not its a meaningful step.
>> On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 9:01 AM, Joseph Arruda<email@example.com
>>> I have read partway through http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h112-3261
, and it is indeed pretty vague in its language (a dangerous thing in the hands of Big Content)...I'll probably finish by the end of the weekend if anyone wants a rundown.
>>> On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 10:45 PM, Bill Ward<firstname.lastname@example.org
>>>> Um, porn may be unsavory but it's not an illegal activity.
>>>> On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 8:41 PM, Mikies Runs Baal<email@example.com
>>>>> Heya Bill,
>>>>> Besides me, has anyone bothered to d/l and read the actual bill to find
>>>>> out IF and WHAT the hubris is actually about.
>>>>> Seems to me that the major screamers are the ones hosting porn sites and
>>>>> other illegal activities.
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