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Re: [vox] Regarding: "Stop Online Piracy Act" that everybodyscreams about...
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Re: [vox] Regarding: "Stop Online Piracy Act" that everybodyscreams about...

Actually, certain types of porn are illegal, not only in this country 
(USA), but other countries internationally.

Secondly, speaking to the vagueness alluded to, all laws tend to be 
somewhat vague.

As with all law, there has to be probable cause for an action to be 
initiated. This bill is no different, and further, spells out 
consequences for filing false reports by the copyright holder et al.

After reading it from beginning to end, I, personally, think it is a 
good law. If enacted, it might give us the right to circumvent 
encryption protections on DVD and rip licensed copies to our personal 
computer or other digital devices strictly for personal use much like 
the current RIAA guideleines for ripping our music CD's to our personal 
devices. This would, of course, have to be tested with a lawsuit 
contesting the restrictions imposed by the DMCA on ripping DVD's with 
copy protection. This might be defended as a moot point since almost all 
DVD's I have bought within the last year now include a code for d/l'ing 
a digital copy to a personal digital device including my laptop or other 

Currently, court decisions (case laws) under the DMCA make it illegal to 
circumvent the encryption protections, but does NOT speak to the rights 
of licensed copy owners to rip for personal use on their digital 
devices. A close read of this law suggests it might be used to counter 
the DMCA on DVD's for personal use.

As with all copyright issues, the licensed user MUST maintain a 
permanent copy of the original CD/DVD for "Fair Use Laws" to apply. Give 
away the original, lose the rights to the copy...

I have an extensive library of VHS and DVD originals that have 
encryption protection in place. VHS's have a limited life-expectancy. 
So, I would definitely love to be able to convert to a DVD format, and 
since my laptop is my primary entertainment system when I am not home, I 
would love to be able to convert my entire library to digital format and 
store on my laptop or external HDD drive for portability.

I would encourage everyone to read the the bill in its entirety.

Here are the link/s again (all available links I could find, btw)

online: http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h112-3261


PDF: http://judiciary.house.gov/hearings/pdf/112%20HR%203261.pdf

online: http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c112:h3261:

Takes a couple hours to wade throught the text.



On 11/23/2011 9:10 AM, Eric Rasmussen wrote:
> Has anyone signed the whitehouse.gov petition?
> https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petitions#!/petition/stop-e-parasite-act/SWBYXX55
> I've never e-signed a whitehouse petition so I'm curious to know
> everyone's thoughts on whether or not its a meaningful step.
> Thanks!
> Eric
> On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 9:01 AM, Joseph Arruda<joseph.arruda@gmail.com>  wrote:
>> I have read partway through http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h112-3261 , and it is indeed pretty vague in its language (a dangerous thing in the hands of Big Content)...I'll probably finish by the end of the weekend if anyone wants a rundown.
>> ja
>> On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 10:45 PM, Bill Ward<bill@wards.net>  wrote:
>>> Um, porn may be unsavory but it's not an illegal activity.
>>> On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 8:41 PM, Mikies Runs Baal<mikiesrunsbaal.sec@sbcglobal.net>  wrote:
>>>> Heya Bill,
>>>> Besides me, has anyone bothered to d/l and read the actual bill to find
>>>> out IF and WHAT the hubris is actually about.
>>>> Seems to me that the major screamers are the ones hosting porn sites and
>>>> other illegal activities.
>>>> IMHO,
>>>> MJR
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