l i n u x - u s e r s - g r o u p - o f - d a v i s
Next Meeting:
July 7: Social gathering
Next Installfest:
Latest News:
Jun. 14: June LUGOD meeting cancelled
Page last updated:
2010 Sep 14 14:25

The following is an archive of a post made to our 'vox mailing list' by one of its subscribers.

Report this post as spam:

(Enter your email address)
Re: [vox] Stuff you really need to run a GNU/Linux network
[Date Prev][Date Next][Thread Prev][Thread Next][Date Index][Thread Index]

Re: [vox] Stuff you really need to run a GNU/Linux network

On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 9:12 PM, Brian Lavender <brian@brie.com> wrote:

That is along the lines that I am thinking. For any suited networking
environment with more than one machine, it seems that you need a good
way to replicate users and authenticate them. I noticed with Fedora 13
that you can point it to an LDAP and KDC and you are good to go.

And, why have DNS on the local network when LDAP is perfectly suited?

Because this is what DNS was designed for.  I've yet to work in a place that was completely homogeneous, usually, you have at least a few non UNIX/Linux machines, and DNS is a standard.  I ran DNS locally on my home network for this very reason.  Just about anything that can network TCP/IP will talk it.  And I'm not talking solely about PCs/workstations here.  You have other non PC equipment in your network.   

The really strange thing I have noticed is when you go to organizations
and they name their systems, devmx01, smtpmark01. That is really
annoying when you can use a directory server to store these attributes.

I disagree.  I can with just a simple hostname command determine exactly what the node does.  Its names like "fiddle" or "d0r3k9s2" that make no sense.  And having to query LDAP is IMO annoying as hell. 
I think to really catapult GNU/Linux, we have to be able to easily
deploy these services. Otherwise, we'll just remain hobbyists or single
server hackers (with backups).

 I'm kinda confused, I thought a good portion of web servers out there run on LAMP..  If you want a specific example, I believe Google uses a linux variant as their main OS.  I would hardly call them a single server hacker, tho their "manage by install" setup is one on steroids, or at least that's what I have been given to believe by reading.  

And speaking of backups, what better way can you think besides having
an offsite backup of rsyncing your data to another hot fail server?!!!

That's great in some setups, until you lose the hot fail server.  Sure you get redundancy, but there's nothing like the safety of a non volatile backup.  Of course this is highly dependent on what data we're talking about.  In many cases, rsync'ing to another server, or hell, just tar/encrypt/uuencoding and gmailing the data is also fine.  But sometimes you want the safety of tape/optical/etc.  

One other thing, just having backups is not enough.  You need to test said backups, and test them regularly.  I have known occasions, when the backup equipment has failed, and failed in a way that the only way we knew it failed is when we started the restore and looked at random bits coming off the media.  

My advice is there is not one backup strategy that works.  Know the data you're backing up, how important it is, and tailor your backup strategy based on that.  And then test.  If you don't test, you don't know that it works.  

One other thing about tools..  I have known a ton of different tools in my career, and over time, all have changed.  Tool X may be king now, but it's likely to be worthless in time.  However, the concepts, they always work.  So know those, and be able to adapt to any tool, then you will always be able to do your job as a system admin.  


Michael Wenk
vox mailing list

LUGOD Group on LinkedIn
Sign up for LUGOD event announcements
Your email address:
LUGOD Group on Facebook
'Like' LUGOD on Facebook:

Hosting provided by:
Sunset Systems
Sunset Systems offers preconfigured Linux systems, remote system administration and custom software development.

LUGOD: Linux Users' Group of Davis
PO Box 2082, Davis, CA 95617
Contact Us

LUGOD is a 501(c)7 non-profit organization
based in Davis, California
and serving the Sacramento area.
"Linux" is a trademark of Linus Torvalds.

Sponsored in part by:
EDGE Tech Corp.
For donating some give-aways for our meetings.