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You could always try using GTKpod...

-Daniel

Daniel Ramon
dan.ramon@rocketmail.com
707-693-1467


--- On Sat, 4/17/10, vox-request@lists.lugod.org <vox-request@lists.lugod.org> wrote:

> From: vox-request@lists.lugod.org <vox-request@lists.lugod.org>
> Subject: vox Digest, Vol 71, Issue 11
> To: vox@lists.lugod.org
> Date: Saturday, April 17, 2010, 7:00 PM
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>    1. Linux Equivalent to IPod? (Bob
> Scofield)
>    2. Re: Linux Equivalent to IPod? (Bill
> Kendrick)
>    3. Re: Linux Equivalent to IPod? (Alex
> Mandel)
>    4. Re: Linux Equivalent to IPod? (Richard
> S. Crawford)
>    5. Re: Linux Equivalent to IPod? (Bill
> Broadley)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 12:28:34 -0700
> From: Bob Scofield <scofield@omsoft.com>
> Subject: [vox] Linux Equivalent to IPod?
> To: LUGOD <vox@lists.lugod.org>
> Message-ID: <201004161228.34414.scofield@omsoft.com>
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> 
> I seem to recall a couple of years ago that there was a
> discussion here about 
> Linux devices that were similar to IPods.  I didn't
> pay attention to it 
> because I don't like walking around with ear phones.
> 
> But I've recently jointed the Woodland YMCA gym, and when
> I'm on the exercise 
> machines I don't like the music played over the load
> speaker.  I'm thinking 
> about getting an IPod-like device and maybe listening to
> podcasts or 
> something.
> 
> I don't like the fact that (the last time I checked) you
> couldn't download 
> from ITunes on Linux because they wouldn't give you Linux
> software.  I know a 
> lot of Linux users like Apple, but I think Apple sometimes
> cooperates with 
> Microsoft to suppress Linux.  So is that a non-Apple
> Linux device that's like 
> an IPod?
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> Bob
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 12:52:32 -0700
> From: Bill Kendrick <nbs@sonic.net>
> Subject: Re: [vox] Linux Equivalent to IPod?
> To: "LUGOD's general discussion mailing list" <vox@lists.lugod.org>
> Message-ID: <20100416195232.GA27743@sonic.net>
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> 
> On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 12:28:34PM -0700, Bob Scofield
> wrote:
> > So is [there] a non-Apple Linux device that's like an
> IPod?
> 
> Sure, plenty!  I can't personally recommend any
> particular
> one, nor do I know how many of these are available in the
> US,
> or still available at all, but here's a good starting
> point:
> 
>   http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/Linux-For-Devices-Articles/Linux-PDAs-PMPs-PNDs-and-other-Handhelds/
> 
> (PMP = Personal Music Player)
> 
> My wife has one of the older iPods... Nano? (Small, but
> with
> a small backlit LCD), and I have an iPod Touch from work.
> I think my wife manages her music (but not that often) via
> amaroK or gpod or something.  The latter is used for
> nothing
> but ebook testing purposes.  (I don't even know my
> iTunes
> account password offhand, so it's impossible for me to
> even
> update the _free_ apps that are already installed on it!
> *mindboggle*)
> 
> Way back before iPods even existed, I had a music player
> of some sort, that I was able to sync to my Linux box over
> parallel port(?).  These days, if I really wanted
> music
> on the go, I'd shove stuff onto my Android phone.
> We only really listen to music on our laptops or in the
> car,
> and the car has an AUX in and we've got a GPS that has an
> SD
> slot and can play MP3s.
> 
> If you're willing to live with a non-Linux-based MP3 and/or
> OGG Vorbis
> player that you can still sync with a Linux desktop/laptop,
> then your
> options probably open up (esp. if they just mount as a USB
> storage
> device, and/or have an SD card)
> 
> -- 
> -bill!
> Sent from my computer
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 12:52:30 -0700
> From: Alex Mandel <tech_dev@wildintellect.com>
> Subject: Re: [vox] Linux Equivalent to IPod?
> To: LUGOD's general discussion mailing list <vox@lists.lugod.org>
> Message-ID: <4BC8BFFE.7080906@wildintellect.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> 
> Bob Scofield wrote:
> > I seem to recall a couple of years ago that there was
> a discussion here about 
> > Linux devices that were similar to IPods.  I
> didn't pay attention to it 
> > because I don't like walking around with ear phones.
> > 
> > But I've recently jointed the Woodland YMCA gym, and
> when I'm on the exercise 
> > machines I don't like the music played over the load
> speaker.  I'm thinking 
> > about getting an IPod-like device and maybe listening
> to podcasts or 
> > something.
> > 
> > I don't like the fact that (the last time I checked)
> you couldn't download 
> > from ITunes on Linux because they wouldn't give you
> Linux software.  I know a 
> > lot of Linux users like Apple, but I think Apple
> sometimes cooperates with 
> > Microsoft to suppress Linux.  So is that a
> non-Apple Linux device that's like 
> > an IPod?
> > 
> > Thank you.
> > 
> > Bob
> 
> Archos and Cowon both make devices some of which run on
> linux (one even
> runs Android), and most of which mount as usb. Those are
> mostly fancy
> devices though that may do a lot more than you're
> expecting. There are
> plenty of inexpensive music players that just mount as usb
> devices for
> drag and drop. I would avoid Creative, Zune and any generic
> brand that
> doesn't make it clear what you can do with it.
> 
> Also consider buying an older generation use IPod super
> cheap that you
> can install linux on.
> http://www.ipodlinux.org/
> 
> As for the solution to ITunes, buy from a more open vendor
> like Amazon
> (there are others, can't recall off the top of my head).
> 
> Enjoy,
> Alex
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 12:56:31 -0700
> From: "Richard S. Crawford" <richard@underpope.com>
> Subject: Re: [vox] Linux Equivalent to IPod?
> To: "LUGOD's general discussion mailing list" <vox@lists.lugod.org>
> Message-ID:
>     <y2lb2bfdfd1004161256ke084b805v347594d1c66b7d50@mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> It's not a Linux based player, but I've had really good
> luck getting my
> Creative Zen X-Fi talking to my Linux box, and transferring
> music files via
> Amarok. I also like Amarok for managing podcasts, though I
> think older
> versions are better than the newest ones.
> 
> HTH
> 
> On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 12:28 PM, Bob Scofield <scofield@omsoft.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > I seem to recall a couple of years ago that there was
> a discussion here
> > about
> > Linux devices that were similar to IPods.  I
> didn't pay attention to it
> > because I don't like walking around with ear phones.
> >
> > But I've recently jointed the Woodland YMCA gym, and
> when I'm on the
> > exercise
> > machines I don't like the music played over the load
> speaker.  I'm thinking
> > about getting an IPod-like device and maybe listening
> to podcasts or
> > something.
> >
> > I don't like the fact that (the last time I checked)
> you couldn't download
> > from ITunes on Linux because they wouldn't give you
> Linux software.  I know
> > a
> > lot of Linux users like Apple, but I think Apple
> sometimes cooperates with
> > Microsoft to suppress Linux.  So is that a
> non-Apple Linux device that's
> > like
> > an IPod?
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> > Bob
> > _______________________________________________
> > vox mailing list
> > vox@lists.lugod.org
> > http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox
> >
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Sl?inte,
> Richard S. Crawford (richard@underpope.com)
> http://www.underpope.com
> Publisher and Editor in Chief, Daikaijuzine (http://www.daikaijuzine.com)
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> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 19:03:21 -0700
> From: Bill Broadley <bill@broadley.org>
> Subject: Re: [vox] Linux Equivalent to IPod?
> To: vox@lists.lugod.org
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> On 04/16/2010 12:28 PM, Bob Scofield wrote:
> > I seem to recall a couple of years ago that there was
> a discussion here about
> > Linux devices that were similar to IPods.  I
> didn't pay attention to it
> > because I don't like walking around with ear phones.
> >
> > But I've recently jointed the Woodland YMCA gym, and
> when I'm on the exercise
> > machines I don't like the music played over the load
> speaker.  I'm thinking
> > about getting an IPod-like device and maybe listening
> to podcasts or
> > something.
> >
> > I don't like the fact that (the last time I checked)
> you couldn't download
> > from ITunes on Linux because they wouldn't give you
> Linux software.  I know a
> > lot of Linux users like Apple, but I think Apple
> sometimes cooperates with
> > Microsoft to suppress Linux.  So is that a
> non-Apple Linux device that's like
> > an IPod?
> 
> Yeah, the apple situation is frustrating.  They make
> quite nice 
> hardware, charge a premium for it, then try to lock you
> into their whole 
> ecosystem.
> 
> So on one hand the ipod nano is pretty much unmatched for
> fit, finish, 
> size, and battery life.  On the other hand apple has
> taken to encrypting 
> their metadata database.  Of course so far the
> opensource drivers have 
> been updated and now it works fine.  I keep hoping
> that by buying apple 
> the competition will realize it's worth paying a designer a
> bit more and 
> to work on fit and finish a bit more.
> 
> I had an ipod video for 3-4 years before it died, never had
> a problem.
> 
> Seems like the justification for a dedicated music device
> is dropping by 
> the day, these days PDAs and cell phones often have a sound
> jack and 
> micro-sd slot.  Considering a cell phone any time
> soon?  I'd rather 
> carry one device instead of two.  I've used my nokia
> n800 (PDA/table) 
> that I bought for $200 or so and it was a good ebook reader
> and mp3 
> player (mostly audio books).  My current android g1 is
> a decent Mp3 
> player but annoyingly it requires either custom earphones
> or a $1 
> converter cable.  AFAIK almost all new android phones
> include a standard 
> audio jack.
> 
> I bought a sansa sense, it was terrible for audio books,
> but fine for 
> music.  The fit and finish were poor, there was a gap
> in my case, the 
> forums weren't particularly pleased with it either.
> 
> 
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