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Re: [vox] things that really suck about C!

No doubt about that. I will make bison my friend. I think the next
generation is Domain Specific languages. I played with ANTLR a bit
and it looks really great. Not to mention, I got the book on "flex &
bison". And the Parrot project is quite interesting too. I think just
doing the calculator example with ANTLR or flex/bison demonstrates the
power of making your own language. 

Maybe tomorrow, we'll be talking about our collection of Context
Free Grammar generation tools! 

I think in domain specific hardware will play a significant role in
the future as well.  System Verilog certainly seems to provide a lot
of promise.

On Mon, Mar 01, 2010 at 10:49:29AM -0800, Bill Ward wrote:
>    I think you should view C as being nothing more than a
>    platform-independent assembly language.  It astonishes me that it is
>    still used as widely as it is.
>    On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 6:35 PM, Brian Lavender <[1]brian@brie.com>
>    wrote:
>      I think if anything, C has been a certain detriment to the field of
>      computer science!
>      One calls a function and the arguments are passed by value. Call a
>      function with an array as an argument, and feel free to modify its
>      contents!
>      Certainly, C++ added the idea of reference, but I think Pascal
>      simplifies these concepts much better. Yet, Pascal seems to be
>      relegated
>      to the status as a legacy language!
>      brian
>      #include <stdio.h>
>      #define CAP 10
>      void mod_array(int a[])
>      {
>       a[2] = 5;
>      }
>      void trychange(int a)
>      {
>       a = 2;
>      }
>      void reallychange(int *a)
>      {
>       *a = 2;
>      }
>      int main() {
>       int b[CAP];
>       int c;
>       int i;
>       printf("Load array and change a value\n");
>       for (i=0; i < CAP; i++)
>         b[i] = i + 20;
>       mod_array(b);
>       for (i=0; i < CAP; i++)
>         printf("b[%d] has value of %d\n",i,b[i]);
>       c = 10;
>       printf("c has a value of %d\n",c);
>       trychange(c);
>       printf("c has a value of %d after trychange(c)\n",c);
>       reallychange(&c);
>       printf("c has a value of %d after reallychange(&c)\n",c);
>      }
>      --
>      Brian Lavender
>      [2]http://www.brie.com/brian/
>      "There are two ways of constructing a software design. One way is to
>      make it so simple that there are obviously no deficiencies. And the
>      other
>      way is to make it so complicated that there are no obvious
>      deficiencies."
>      Professor C. A. R. Hoare
>      The 1980 Turing award lecture
>      _______________________________________________
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>      [4]http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox
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>    View my photos at [6]http://flickr.com/photos/billward/
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> References
>    1. mailto:brian@brie.com
>    2. http://www.brie.com/brian/
>    3. mailto:vox@lists.lugod.org
>    4. http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox
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"Too much hype, too much confusion, and too many people talking about
something they don't understand have greatly muddied the waters in the
last year or so."

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