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I Tivo'ed the interview, but lack the capacity to capture it onto a PC.

I would gladly host the interview on Biznerds if some guy with a better
laptop than I would convert it to mpeg. Any takers?

I also showed them FireFox. I didn't look close enough at the screen in the
story. I just assumed that was my download/demo of FireFox. 

This latest virus has caused me to recommend switching over to all my
clients using IE (pretty much all of them). I was waiting for the 1.0
release of FireFox before I did this. I can't wait anymore.

I gave them Bill's number because he's the only person I know well from
LUGOD. I was glad he was able to find someone local for them to talk to.

John Marcotte
Biznerds Consulting Group
john@biznerds.com
 
http://www.biznerds.com/


> 
> Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 08:24:28 -0700
> From: Shu Chow <schow@macnexus.org>
> Subject: Re: [Lug-nuts] ISO someone for TV interview
> To: General SacLUG discussion <lug-nuts@saclug.org>
> Reply-To: General SacLUG discussion <lug-nuts@saclug.org>
> 
> On 7/22/04 12:39 AM, "Bill Kendrick" <nbs@sonic.net> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > So...  did anyone see/record Shu on TV
> > today?  (I assume it was on today :) )
> 
> 
> I believe it was on the 5:00 pm news.  There's a companion 
> blurb piece on it at the site.
> 
> http://www.thekcrachannel.com/station/3561409/detail.html
> 
> Debriefing notes:
> 
> 1) Interview was done at the SPCA.  My work office is a mess, 
> and they probably wouldn't have given me permission to use it 
> since I was going to bash the official standard browser of 
> the company.  Home office was also a mess
> 
> 1) Per the Mozilla Foundation, I pitched only Firefox and 
> only mentioned Mozilla in the context of the Mozilla Foundation.
> 
> 2) She did not ask me any details as to why Firefox was more 
> secure. It was just sufficient for me to say that it had a 
> better security model and implementation practices.
> 
> 3) She was more interested in Firefox's features. We talked 
> about popup blocking, tabbed browsing, and the Google search bar.
> 
> 4) I walked through the Firefox download process. They filmed 
> me typing in http://www.mozilla.org/firefox, scrolled up and 
> down the screen a bit, and clicking the Download Now button. 
> However, the FTP server timed out! I cancelled it and tried 
> again, but it timed out again.
> 
> 5) Luckily I had my laptop with me and I showed them Firefox. 
> Unluckily, it's an iBook. Astute viewers may find it weird 
> that we're discussing Windows vulnerabilities and using Mac 
> OS X to demonstrate it.
> 
> 6) Discussed the CERT Advisory. I made it a point to never 
> refer to them as CERT, but as the Dept. of Homeland Security. 
>  Nobody knows who CERT is, but everyone knows DoHS.  Viewers 
> may get the idea that using IE helps terrorists. That's good. 
> If you use IE, you *must* be a friend of Osama.
> 
> 7) At the beginning of the interview, they tried to get a 
> site up on the screen behind me. Mozilla.org and saclug.org's 
> sites had too much white. Debian worked, though.
> 
> 8) She asked if I thought these vulnerabilities would be make 
> a dent in IE usage.  I said something to the effect of, "Of 
> course, and we know this because the Mozilla Foundation has 
> seen Firefox downloads double since these holes were 
> discovered."  I never mentioned concrete numbers.
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> 
> ----- End forwarded message -----
> 
> -- 
> bill@newbreedsoftware.com            "Avoid missing ball for 
> high score"
> http://www.newbreedsoftware.com/
> New Breed Software
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 17:05:29 -0700
> From: Bill Kendrick <nbs@sonic.net>
> Subject: [vox] [fwd] Newsletter from O'Reilly UG Program, July 22
> To: LUGOD <vox@lists.lugod.org>
> Message-ID: <20040723000529.GI28484@sonic.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
> 
> 
> I've added Picn*x13 to their UG events page, too ;)
>   http://wiki.oreillynet.com/usergroups/mt-xmlrpc.cgi?UGEvents
> 
> 
> ----- Forwarded message from Marsee Henon <marsee@oreilly.com> -----
> 
> ================================================================
> O'Reilly News for User Group Members
> July 22, 2004 
> ================================================================
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
> Book News
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
> -Pragmatic Project Automation: How to Build, Deploy, and 
> Monitor Java Apps
> -The Book of Nero 6 Ultra Edition
> -Enterprise JavaBeans, 4th Edition
> -Learning PHP 5
> -Java 1.5 Tiger: A Developer's Notebook
> -Enterprise Service Bus
> -GarageBand: The Missing Manual
> -Mac OS X Panther Hacks
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
> Upcoming Events
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
> -O'Reilly Open Source Convention, Portland, OR--July 26-30
> -Dan Gillmor ("We the Media") and Paul Graham ("Hackers & Painters"), 
> Powell's Books, Portland, OR--July 28
> -Tim O'Reilly Speaks at the Portland Area .NET User Group Meeting, 
> Portland, OR--July 29
> -Alex Martelli ("Python in a Nutshell"), Powell's Books, 
> Portland, OR--July 29
> -Niel M. Bornstein (".NET and XML"), Extreme Markup Languages 2004, 
> Montreal, Canada--August 2-6
> -O'Reilly at LinuxWorld, San Francisco, CA--August 2-5
> -MERLOT International Conference, Costa Mesa, CA--August 3-6 
> -Steve Bass ("PC Annoyances"), 11th Annual Southwest Computer 
> User Group Conference, San Diego, CA--August 6-8
> -Wil Wheaton ("Just a Geek"), Powell's Technical Books, 
> Portland, OR--August 6
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
> Conference News
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
> -O'Reilly Open Source Convention User Group Discount
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
> News
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
> -The Ideal Digital Photographer's Workflow, Part 5
> -SafariU: Create, Customize, and Share Teaching Material
> -The Great Linux Desktop Migration Contest
> -Why PHP 5 Rocks!
> -How to Fall in Love with Your iSight, Again
> -12 Steps to Improving Your Mac's Performance
> -Macworld Boston 2004: Brains Over Beauty
> -Windows Server Hacks: Restoring Shadow Copies Using the 
> Command Line -Understanding WinFX in Longhorn -Better, 
> Faster, Lighter Programming in .NET and Java -Cooking with 
> Eclipse -Writing Cross-Platform Mobile Applications Using Crossfire
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
> News From Your Peers
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
> -How to Write a Book Review by the Melbourne PHP User Group
> 
> ================================================
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> ================================================
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> 
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> 
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> 
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> 
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> 
> 
> ***Enterprise Service Bus
> Publisher: O'Reilly
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> 
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> 
> 
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> Publisher: O'Reilly
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> 
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> 
> 
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> Publisher: O'Reilly
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> 
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> 
> ================================================
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> ***For more events, please see:
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> 
> 
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> 
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> 
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> 
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> Portland, OR--July 29
> Alex stops in for an appearance at Portland's favorite 
> bookstore. Powell's Technical Books, Portland, OR 
> http://www.powells.com/calendar.html
> 
> 
> ***Niel M. Bornstein (".NET and XML"), Extreme Markup Languages 2004, 
> Montreal, Canada--August 2-6
> Niel presents a tutorial based on his book.
> Hotel Europa, Montreal, Canada 
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> 
> 
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> 
> 
> ***Steve Bass ("PC Annoyances"), 11th Annual Southwest 
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> you'll be there on the evening of August 7, be sure to drop 
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> 
> 
> ***Wil Wheaton ("Just a Geek"), Powell's Technical Books, 
> Portland, OR--August 6 Wil  heads north for an appearance and 
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> 
> ================================================
> Conference News ================================================
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> 
> ================================================
> News From O'Reilly & Beyond 
> ================================================
> ---------------------
> General News
> ---------------------
> ***The Ideal Digital Photographer's Workflow, Part 5 
> Ken Milburn, author of "Digital Photography: Expert 
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> http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/javascript/2004/07/20/digital_
> photography.html
> 
> 
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> 
> ---------------------
> Open Source
> ---------------------
> ***The Great Linux Desktop Migration Contest
> If you're considering, or you have already embarked upon, a 
> Linux desktop migration, here's your chance to help guide and 
> inspire others and be eligible to win an all-expense-paid  
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> migration, a phased migration plan, or the most practical 
> tips for migrating to Linux. The contest deadline is August 
> 9. http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/linux/contest/
> 
> 
> ***Why PHP 5 Rocks! 
> Adam Trachtenberg provides a quick tour around PHP 5, 
> highlighting seven of his favorite new features. These 
> features (including better support for OOP, bundled SQLite, 
> iterators, and more cool stuff) will allow your PHP 5 code to 
> be more concise, more elegant, and more flexible than ever. 
> Adam is the author of the upcoming "Upgrading to PHP 5." 
> http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/php/2004/07/15/UpgradePHP5.html
> 
> ---------------------
> Mac
> ---------------------
> ***How to Fall in Love with Your iSight, Again 
> Snaggy and Nitrozac are back to show you how to fall in love 
> with your iSight, again, and provide a few chuckles along the 
> way. Consider them your personal tech-therapists, willing to 
> help bring you and your gorgeous hardware back together, with 
> advice on apps and add-ons that will enhance your iSight 
> relationship. If you like the way S and N weave humor and 
> tech talk, check out their book, "The Best of The Joy of 
> Tech." 
> http://www.macdevcenter.com/pub/a/mac/2004/07/20/iSightLove.html
> 
> 
> ***12 Steps to Improving Your Mac's Performance 
> Keeping your Mac happy and performing as it did the day you 
> brought it home takes a bit of degunking. Joli Ballew offers 
> 12 steps to improving your Mac's performance that will have 
> it humming along in no time. For more in-depth details on why 
> the Mac slowdown occurs and what you can do about it, check 
> out Joli's new book, "Degunking Your Mac." 
> http://www.macdevcenter.com/pub/a/mac/2004/07/16/DegunkYourMac.html
> 
> 
> ***Macworld Boston 2004: Brains Over Beauty 
> In the late 1700s, Boston culture facilitated debate by some 
> of the greatest American minds. Now in 2004, it's once again 
> the home for the Mac elite on the East Coast. Derrick Story 
> photographs and comments on the character of this year's 
> Macworld Boston.
> 
> http://www.macdevcenter.com/pub/a/mac/2004/07/14/macworld.html
> 
> ---------------------
> Windows
> ---------------------
> ***Windows Server Hacks: Restoring Shadow Copies Using the 
> Command Line Shadow copies is a new feature of Windows Server 
> 2003 that automatically creates point-in-time copies or 
> snapshots of files in shared folders. Mitch Tulloch, author 
> of "Windows Server Hacks," shows you the easiest way to 
> restore them. 
> http://www.windowsdevcenter.com/pub/a/windows/2004/07/20/shado
> w_copies.html
> 
> 
> ***Understanding WinFX in Longhorn
> Longhorn is still in pre-beta, but it's time to get ready for 
> developing apps for it. Wei-Meng Lee, author of "Windows XP 
> Unwired," gives a rundown about the APIs that developers will 
> use to write the next generation of Windows applications. 
> http://www.windowsdevcenter.com/pub/a/windows/2004/07/13/winfx.html
> 
> ---------------------
> Java
> ---------------------
> ***Better, Faster, Lighter Programming in .NET and Java 
> In "Better, Faster, Lighter Java," authors Bruce Tate and 
> Justin Gehtland lay out five basic principles to combat the 
> "bloat" that has built up over time in modern Java 
> programming. In this article, Justin shows how programmers 
> developing .NET apps can apply the same principles, and along 
> the way, cultivate still more ideas that make programming 
> simpler and fun again. 
> http://www.onjava.com/pub/a/onjava/2004/07/14/BFLJava.html
> 
> 
> ***Cooking with Eclipse
> In these sample recipes from O'Reilly's "Eclipse Cookbook" 
> learn how to create a custom perspective in Eclipse, and how 
> to speed up the JDT Editor. 
> http://www.onjava.com/pub/a/onjava/excerpt/eclipseckbk_chap1/i
> ndex.html
> 
> ---------------------
> .NET
> ---------------------
> *** Writing Cross-Platform Mobile Applications Using 
> Crossfire If you are a Microsoft developer familiar with the 
> .NET Framework, you generally have two options if you want to 
> write mobile applications. For mobile handsets, you can 
> develop mobile web applications using the ASP.NET Mobile 
> controls. For standalone applications, you can use the .NET 
> Compact Framework. However, using the .NET Compact Framework 
> you can only target Pocket PC devices. And that essentially 
> means that you are out of luck when it comes to developing 
> for competing devices such as Palm and Symbian Smartphones. 
> In this article, Wei-Meng Lee introduces you to a new open 
> source project known as Crossfire that promises to close the 
> gap. http://www.ondotnet.com/pub/a/dotnet/2004/07/12/crossfire.html
> 
> 
> ================================================
> News From Your Peers ================================================
> ***How to Write a Book Review by the Melbourne PHP User Group 
> http://melbourne.ug.php.net/content/view/63/59/
> 
> Thanks to Chris Burgess for sharing this. You can find this 
> URL along with other tips and tricks on the O'Reilly UG wiki: 
> http://wiki.oreillynet.com/usergroups/lpt?HomePage
>  
> Until next time--
> 
> Marsee
> 
> 
> ----- End forwarded message -----
> 
> -bill!
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 19:53:45 -0700
> From: Bill Kendrick <nbs@sonic.net>
> Subject: [vox] Who uses Open Source?
> To: LUGOD <vox@lists.lugod.org>
> Message-ID: <20040723025345.GD10254@sonic.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> 
> 
> Someone asked about who uses Open Source (to list in a 
> proposal or something) over on SVLUG's list.  One page that 
> someone directed them to was this:
> 
>   http://www.linuxscreenshots.com/users.php
> 
> -bill!
> bill@newbreedsoftware.com            "Avoid missing ball for 
> high score"
> http://www.newbreedsoftware.com/
> New Breed Software
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 19:56:16 -0700
> From: Bill Kendrick <nbs@sonic.net>
> Subject: [vox] Re: Who uses Open Source?
> To: LUGOD <vox@lists.lugod.org>
> Message-ID: <20040723025616.GF10254@sonic.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> 
> On Thu, Jul 22, 2004 at 07:53:45PM -0700, Bill Kendrick wrote:
> > 
> > Someone asked about who uses Open Source (to list in a proposal or 
> > something) over on SVLUG's list.  One page that someone 
> directed them 
> > to was this:
> > 
> >   http://www.linuxscreenshots.com/users.php
> 
> Oh yeah, and this:
> 
>   http://linux.bryanconsulting.com/stories/storyReader$45
> 
> -bill!
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 00:10:23 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Scot Albert <givelight2005@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [vox] Computer parts?
> To: LUGOD's general discussion mailing list <vox@lists.lugod.org>
> Message-ID: <20040723071023.50674.qmail@web53704.mail.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> 
> Bill,
> Sorry no monitors just some towers and mother boards that are 
> old and need memory. Scot
> 
> Bill Kendrick <nbs@sonic.net> wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 20, 2004 at 01:55:29AM -0700, Scot Albert wrote:
> > Dear Lugod Staff,
> > I had emailed you before about some old computer parts I wanted to
> > give to a good cause. I have not heard a response.
> 
> Scot, if you've got a spare monitor, I know Chamonix's 
> Linux-based public access terminal is 'down' due to lack of 
> monitor. :^)
> 
> They're up by Albertsons on Covell at Anderson. (Same bldg as 
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