Re: [vox] Tivo question
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Re: [vox] Tivo question
with every issue in cryptography, it's never "if", but "when".
this seems to suggest that there are currently active work arounds to
here are people discussing (jul 2003) another method around the
encryption, along a different route:
i was able to find a forum on extracting video from tivo at
after reading your email, i really got a strong urge to get a tivo. i'm
not really a TV freak; give me star trek and i'm happy. throw in BBC
stuff and i'm ecstatic. but tivo sounds like a blast to hack on.
On Mon 08 Dec 03, 10:25 AM, Dave Margolis <firstname.lastname@example.org> said:
> Hello all,
> My apologies if anybody thinks this is off topic, but since
> there are some Tivo enthusiasts on this list and the guts of the thing is
> a Linux box, I figured it would be OK...
> I didn't think I cared enough about TV to ever want one of these beasts,
> but I bought my brother-in-law _Hacking the Tivo_ (O'Reilly) for X-mas and
> after flipping through the first couple of chapters I decided I really
> wanted to get my hands on one.
> Here's my question. The author claims you can't extract the video files
> from a series 2 Tivo (currenlty available direct from Tivo for $199)
> because of some kind of not-yet-cracked encryption. He tells us, however,
> that the saved video files are readily aviable for watching by some
> regular means after a quick trip through mencoder, if you have a series 1
> Tivo that is.
> On the other hand, series 2 Tivos have a USB port on the back, ready for
> a compatible USB wired or wirless network adapter. Series 1
> Tivos have to be physically hacked with a third party add-on.
> It looks like new hard-drives and most of the other hacks listed will work
> on both.
> I'm not stating these as facts, but just impressions I've gotten from the
> book. I'm not afraid of the nic upgrade on the series 1, but the USB
> thing sounds easy and I don't want to miss any of the other benefits of a
> series 2 Tivo if there are any.
> I'd really like to be able to extract the video for editing and/or burning
> to DVD. Having the video files stuck on the Tivo seems like a
> The question is: new series 2 or series 1 purchase from eBay (or
> somewhere else)? Has somebody already figured out the video
> extraction on series 2 Tivos since the book was published? Am I just as
> well off with a series 1? Will the software upgrades from Tivo continue to
> support the series 1 for the forseeable future?
> If I do go the series 1 route, any recommendations on a specific model?
> Thanks for your time,
> vox mailing list
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