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You linux folks are very saavy, and creative. Seems as though
it would be possible to have a messageboard template, indented
replies under the main post. I have a difficult finding the actual
answers, with the redundancies of the way this is listed. Any
of you programming genius's willing to create something?

Ohana

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Today's Topics:

   1. Sorry For Mispost: Looking for Part Time IT Consultant (Nathan
Johanson)
   2. Re: Sorry For Mispost: Looking for Part Time IT Consultant (Eric D.
Pierce)
   3. Re: Wrong List: Looking for Part Time IT Consultant (Micah J. Cowan)

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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 7 May 2003 06:35:31 -0700 (PDT)
From: Nathan Johanson <johansonweb@yahoo.com>
To: vox@lists.lugod.org
Subject: [vox] Sorry For Mispost: Looking for Part Time IT Consultant
Reply-To: vox@lists.lugod.org

Sorry about the mispost. I knew it didn't belong, but
figured I'd force the ball through the square peg. I
know a lot of people are looking for jobs, and the
first thing I did (when I was layed off) was attend
users groups, crack open the books, and spend my free
time brushing up on my skils. I figured there would be
a lot of people in that same boat: eager to work and
lurking on this list.

I'll wait till a consensus has been reached, and I'll
re-post to the appropriate list if necessary.

Ironically, every single response I received had to do
with whether the post belonged here. No one is
actually interested in the job ;-)

Nathan

--- Mike Simons <msimons@moria.simons-clan.com> wrote:
> On Tue, May 06, 2003 at 12:54:03PM -0700, Nathan
> Johanson wrote:
> > Before I get into the kludge, let me state the
> main
> > point. We're hiring! I know this is a Linux list
> [snip]
>
>   LUGOD has a "vox-jobs" list for job posts, people
> looking for jobs or
> posting about should look there... to subscribe look
> at this page:
>
>   http://lists.lugod.org/vox-jobs/
>
>   Unfortunately this listing appears to be Windows
> focused and wouldn't
> belong there either...
>
>     Later,
>       Mike Simons
>
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Message: 2
From: "Eric D. Pierce" <epierce@surewest.net>
To: vox@lists.lugod.org
Date: Wed, 07 May 2003 08:17:11 -0700
Subject: Re: [vox] Sorry For Mispost: Looking for Part Time IT Consultant
Reply-To: vox@lists.lugod.org

http://www.sacpcug.org/

(linked from:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-
8&q=sacramento+pc+user+group )

Hope you have success in your enterprises.

regards,
ep


On 7 May 2003 at 6:35, Nathan Johanson wrote:

From:           	Nathan Johanson <johansonweb@yahoo.com>
To:             	vox@lists.lugod.org
Subject:        	[vox] Sorry For Mispost: Looking for Part Time IT
Consultant
Date sent:      	Wed, 7 May 2003 06:35:31 -0700 (PDT)

> Sorry about the mispost. I knew it didn't belong, but
> figured I'd force the ball through the square peg. I
> know a lot of people are looking for jobs, and the
> first thing I did (when I was layed off) was attend
> users groups,

...



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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 7 May 2003 11:17:26 -0700
From: "Micah J. Cowan" <micah@cowan.name>
To: vox@lists.lugod.org
Subject: Re: [vox] Wrong List: Looking for Part Time IT Consultant
Reply-To: vox@lists.lugod.org

On Tue, May 06, 2003 at 10:47:57PM -0700, Michael Wenk wrote:
> On Tuesday 06 May 2003 04:05 pm, Mike Simons wrote:
> > On Tue, May 06, 2003 at 03:59:27PM -0700, Micah J. Cowan wrote:
> > > Speaking of which: I was just thinking earlier today that it's a shame
> > > that non-Linux-oriented jobs now have no real place; we used to allow
> > > them on vox...
> > >
> > > I realize that we are, first and foremost, a Linux-oriented group; but
> > > still, there may come job opportunities which I become aware of and
> > > feel that a lot of the folks at LUGOD would love to hear about,
> > > despite the fact that it may not be Linux-related.
> >
> > Micah,
> >
> >   Glad you brought up the discussion...  I'll hold off expressing my
> > opinion until other people have had a chance to reply.
>
>
> Speaking as someone who has been unemployed for a while now, I personally
> cannot afford to pick and choose.  I personally think that any IT or CS
> related jobs should be allowed on vox-jobs.  Its not like there's 30-40
posts
> a day, and as I said, I cannot afford to be choosy.  You can also look at
it
> this way.  If someone gets the job and has a linux background, then they
have
> the ability to preach the gospel from inside(poor choice of words, but I
> don't feel very well, and am trouble thinking of a better way of putting
> that.)  I'm sure you know what I mean.

This is exactly what I was thinking. And yes, you might find it on a
MS jobs site, but the chances of you finding a job are much better if
a friend at Lugod was able to suggest it, because he thought of all
his friends at Lugod who are qualified.

> > > Could we change the
> > > rules so that non-Linux job opportunities are okay, but the
> > > subject-line has to be flagged or something?
> >
> > - Which list are you suggesting non-Linux related jobs should be
allowed?
>
> Personally, I cannot afford to ignore ANY job no matter if its via vox
list or
> the purple jellybean mailing list.  But I can see why people may not want
to
> see this on vox, so my vote is for vox-jobs...

Ditto here.

Believe me, I totally understand what you folks are saying who would
prefer to keep vox-jobs Linux, or at least UNIX related. I had
personally hoped never to be forced into a position where I had to
take a non-UNIX job, but here I am... I know that there are at least a
couple others in Lugod who feel the same way: much rather take a UNIX
job, but with the way the market is, will take what they can take.

Of course, if the final concensus is that we should leave things as
they are, I'll be totally fine with that. But I do think, if it comes
to a vote, we should let those who are currently without work have a
weightier voice.

My $0.02,
Micah


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