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Re: [vox] Rant (a bit long).

This is basically what I want to set up {previous post=networking}.  Linux
as gateway server then any OS to go thru it.

One of the letters that I received via list stated the following..."For
hardware, you'll need, in addition to everyone's desktop
systems,  1) a computer to be your firewall, and 2) a separate
computer to be your router.".  I don't understand why I have to have 2
computers to set up my LAN and also have the ability to talk to the outside
world.  I am going to get a separate router (probably lynksis but unsure and
wireless if I can get enough speed), wont this take the place of the
foresaid extra computer?

Again, my ignorance is astounding when it comes to this sort of stuff so
please don't be insulted by me asking what appears to be a trivial question
to the experts out there.
----- Original Message -----
From: <donw@examen.com>
To: <vox@lists.lugod.org>
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 7:15 AM
Subject: [vox] Rant (a bit long).

> Well, I'm not at the axe-wielding stage anymore, but I'd still like to
> throw this bit of Microsoft-bashing at a list that will appreciate it.
> I recently upgraded to a much nicer apartment complex; the price to pay
> for this was gaining a roommate, which seems to be working out well[1].
> Only problem is, now that I've got a roommate, I needed to NAT out my
> uplink to the internet -- seeing as how we don't have a phone line (both
> of us have mobiles), and as how I'd rather split the $50 a month that
> Interquest costs me with the roomie.
> Since I didn't feel like having a fifty-foot snake of CAT-5 running
> between our bedrooms, I opted for the easy solution -- wireless
> networking.  Simple and painless, right?
> Well, the Linux side was.  Installed a kernel patch, got the wireless
> tools loaded in /opt, and other than having to tweak an init script (why
> did the linux-wlan *hard-code* binary paths?), everything seemed to work
> quite nicely.
> Ah.  Time for the Windows side.  As usual, my roommate had a Windows
> machine -- in this case, Windows98.  While moving her on to Linux would
> be tempting, I know I won't be there to support it for her, and she
> doesn't really have time to grok the nuances of a completely new system
> (although I'm sure she'd be capable of it).  Problem number one is a
> Windows98 SE installation that has been, well, used by an end-user for
> the past four years.
> Shutdown problems, bluescreens, driver glitches out the wazoo.  Kristin
> (my roommate) has been having problems with this machine for some time,
> so I graciously voulenteered to use my Many Years Of Dealing With This
> Crap to re-install Windows for her; after all, I've got media, she has a
> valid license, and everything should be happy.
> Here's a list of problems I ran into on the Windows side:
> 1. For some odd reason, Windows98 disks are sometimes-bootable.
>    Sometimes I can get them to boot, and sometimes they pull down their
>    eyelid and stick out their tongue.  For some odd reason, the "startup
>    disk" I built on another Win98 box (I love VMware) didn't seem to be
>    palatable to her machine, so I ended up having to wait until the next
>    day and grab our PC tech's bootdisk from work.
> 2. Ok, it's booted.  Let's install.  No, I want you to install on the C:
>    drive.  C.  Not D.  Yes, I know there's an old Windows installation
>    on D (her old hard drive).  No, I don't want to upgrade it.  Yes, I'm
>    a bloody expert, I'm so into it that I've got a windows logo tattooed
>    on my bum, now could you just bloody please install on C?
> 3. Ok, it's installed.  Now all I need to do is install the driver for
>    the wireless NIC so that I can link it to my workstation and download
>    drivers for the rest of everything else.  Insert the CD for the NIC
>    driver in the CD-ROM, and it spits out an incredibly useful error
>    prior to giving up the proverbial ghost:
>        "A required file could not be found."
>    What file?  Hell, what application?  Do I need to install a patch?
>    The "troubleshooting guide" supplied with the card was a bloody joke,
>    as was the Linksys website.  I had a gut feeling that this was
>    related to the Windows install being ancient, which could be remedied
>    by a Windows Update, but you can't do that without being on the
>    internet, now can you?  Because Microsoft, in their infinite wisdom,
>    doesn't let you download service packs unless you're doing it on the
>    machine you want to patch.
> 4. Find a driver file on the Linksys website for the bloody card; one
>    that doesn't have a MACROMEDIA FLASH-BASED INSTALLER, and throw the
>    thing onto a CD.  Crap, it's an old CD-ROM drive and doesn't like my
>    CD-RWs...burn a 7MB drink coaster, install the bloody driver,
>    and...ah.  It works.  Spits out the same error at the end of the
>    install, but I can now get out to the world through my Linux box.
> I realize this would have been easier had all the proper media been
> present, but the point is thus: If I need a piece of software to use
> something on a Linux box, I usually see an error message that gives me
> *some* clue as to what is missing, and I can usually get that piece of
> software on the machine with a minimum of fuss -- even if I have to
> download it on a seperate machine and shoehorn it through a serial cable
> or use floppy-sized packets and a sneakernet connection.
> Sheesh.  Ok, I'm done now.  We now return to your regularly scheduled
> programming.
> [1] She likes my cooking (we eat more-or-less the same foods), and we
>     have conflicting schedules -- I might see her for five minutes out of
>     the day.  That, and she cleans up after herself.  Life is good.
> --
> Don Werve <donw@examen.com> (Unix System Administrator)
> Yorn desh born, der ritt de gitt der gue,
> Orn desh, dee born desh, de umn bork! bork! bork!
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