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I hope you are kidding about the felony... I think that over a year in
jail for that type of activity way over the top.  Maybe we should make
trafficking in spam producing software a felony too... I'm sorry you
created a telnet program and have violated the DMSA (Digital
Millennium Spam Act) and will now spend weeks in jail waiting for some
judge to get a clue.  Give me a break.

I think that spam will work itself out.  If things start getting too
bad people will switch to an email system that verifies the source of
the message before accepting it.  MAPS/RBL is an awkward attempt to do
this by forcing people to shut down open gateways.  I am less angry
about spam, if I can find the entity that sent it.

There should be laws against spam, but they should be civil penalties 
that discourage people from making money from the spam.  Without 
financial incentives, much of the spam will go away.  For the most 
part creative filters and throw away email accounts have nearly 
eliminated my spam diet <knock on wood>.


On Tue, Jul 31, 2001 at 11:39:18AM -0700, Brad Benedict wrote:
> > i respond to each and every single piece of spam, with absolutely no
> > exception.  and i'm relentless.  using nslookup, whois and traceroute, i
> send
> > complaints to loads and loads of people, including 2 or 3 sites upstream
> from
> > the place that sent the spam, dns servers, noc's, the offending host and
> > every host which obviously belongs to the same domain that gets listed
> with
> > traceroute.  it's kind of the "this car is insured by smith and wesson"
> type
> > of response.
> You wanna tell me how to do that?  I've tried it before, but I find that
> most IPs are spoofed, and I can't find where it actually came from.
> It's a felony in Norway to send spam.  But then they let convicted murderers
> out on the weekends, if they ask.  pfft.  Anyway, if more countries made it
> a felony, I bet we would see a lot less.

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