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Re: [vox] Debian and ISO's in general
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Re: [vox] Debian and ISO's in general



Ok, I think I see now.  The nonUS one has everything, including crypto.
The without-nonUS has no crypto so distributors situated within the US who
want to sell the distro can do so.  So nonUS should be nonUSdistributors.

On Tue, 12 Jun 2001, Peter Jay Salzman wrote:

> begin: Foo Lim <fwlim@ucdavis.edu> quote
> > I am also confused.  The FAQ (http://cdimage.debian.org/faq.html) says:
> >
> > "Non-US software may be imported into the US allright, but exporting it
> > from the US is forbidden by law."
> >
> > But isn't stuff that's already outside the US already outside without the
> > need to export it?  Also:
>
> foo, you're logic is USA-centric.
>
> suppose debian releases a disk with crypto.  he uploads it to a US server.
> however, the US server cannot re-offer it for download because it has crypto
> on it.
>
> hence, the developer needs to state "this is a special disk; it cannot be
> exported from the USA.".
>
> the thing you're not realizing is that the stuff already outside the US may
> come back to the US.  once it passes our borders, it cannot be re-exported
> freely.
>
>
> > 'the "without-NONUS" variant is useful only for US-based mirrors and
> > US-based vendors that sell CDs internationally.'
> >
> > How can the without-NONUS image be only for US but still sell
> > internationally?
>
> let's break your sentence up into two parts:
>
> 	> How can the without-NONUS image be only for US
>
> 	this is in error -- it's not "only for US".  it's the only image that
> 	US based vendors can sell/distribute outside the US.  specifically, it's
> 	not for us.  it's for the rest of the world IF they bought the disk from
> 	a US based vendor.
>
> 	> but still sell internationally?
>
> 	nobody in their right mind would distribute the without non-us disk.
> 	only american vendors / retailers.
>
> > Weird.  I just followed this line when I got my ISO:
> > "So basically everyone should fetch the NONUS variant for private use"
>
> yup.
>
> > Plus, the australian server I d/led my iso from only had the non-us
> > version.  I figure crypto packages I need can be downloaded at another
> > time.
>
> the non-us version HAS the crypto stuff.    you've already got it.
>
> think of the non-us version as the version that everyone but the USA uses.
> everyone uses RSA.  only the USA has hangups about it.  think of it from the
> point of view of someone outside the USA.
>
> it IS complicated.  just think about it for awhile.  it'll make sense.
>
> pete
>


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