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Re: [vox-tech] Install Plone on Ubuntu
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Re: [vox-tech] Install Plone on Ubuntu

On Wed, Mar 30, 2005 at 12:30:49AM -0800, tech_dev(Alex Mandel) wrote:
> 1. I know the new versions of plone come with zope and plone bundled so 
> you don't need to install them separately(at least on win and mac)

I know nothing about Zope or Plone, but I'm guessing you can use Zope
WITHOUT Plone, so the Debian (Ubuntu?) packagers separated them.
(No sense in forcing an install of Plone for folks who don't need/want it.)
Then they just make Plone 'depend' on Zope.

The "coming with Zope" on Windows and Mac is probably just to make it
easy for Windows & Mac users.  (Just like how so many apps include DLLs of
libs that a Debian user would simply "apt-get install" _one_ copy of :^) )

For what it's worth, here's the output of "aptitude show zope" and
"aptitude show plone" on my Debian Testing box (last updated: earlier tonight)

Package: zope
State: not installed
Version: 2.6.4-1.6
Priority: optional
Section: web
Maintainer: Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis <luca@debian.org>
Uncompressed Size: 14.2M
Depends: python2.2 (>= 2.2.3), debconf (>= 1.2.9), python2.2-xml, adduser,
         zopectl (>=, dpkg (>= 1.10), libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-4)
Suggests: python-unit, zope-book, zope-devguide
Conflicts: zope-httpd, zope-siteaccess, zope-zieve (<= 0.0.3-1), zope-cmfcore
           (<= 1.1-5), zope-znavigator (<= 2.00-1), zope-ztutils,
           zope-zcvsmixin (<= 0.1.4-1), zope-worldpilot (<= 1.0.4-1),
           zope-pagetemplates, zope-ldap (<= 1.1.0-1), zope-zwiki (< 0.8),
           zope-guf (<= 1.1.0-1), zope-parsedxml (<= 1.0-8), zope-pythonmethod
           (<= 0.1.7-2), zope-pygresqlda (<= 0.3rjr2-1), zope-mysqlda (<=
           2.0.7-1), zope-emarket (<= 0.2.0a4-1), zope-zpatterns (<=
           0.4.3b1-1), zope-popyda (<= 2.0.7), zope-renderable (<= 0.2-1),
           zope-eventfolder (<= 1.31-2), python-tal (<= 1.3.2-4),
           zope-tinytable (<= 0b2-4), zope-bytecodehacks (<= 0.1.7-2),
           squishdot (<= 1.0.0-1), zope-zshell (<= 1.2-1), zope-psycopgda (<=
           0.99.6-2), zope-loginmanager (<= 0.8.8b1-1)
Replaces: zope-httpd, zope-siteaccess, zope-pagetemplates, zope-ztutils
Provides: zope-ztutils, zope-pagetemplates, zope-siteaccess

Package: plone
State: not installed
Version: 2.0.4-3
Priority: optional
Section: web
Maintainer: Fabio Tranchitella <kobold@kobold.it>
Uncompressed Size: 41.0k
Depends: zope-cmfplone (= 2.0.4-3)
Recommends: zope-externaleditor (>= 0.6), zope-cmfsin, zope-ttwtype,
            zope-speedpack, zope-epoz, zope-kupu, zope-plonearticle,
            zope-atcontenttypes, zope2.7-archetypes | zope-archetypes,
Suggests: zope-plonecollectorng, zope-cmfnewsletter, zope-cmfphoto,
          zope-cmfphotoalbum, zope-cmfforum, zope-cmfwiki, zope-cmfweblog
Conflicts: plone2
Replaces: plone2

Do the version numbers floating around above help shed any light?

(an expert at stabbing in the dark ;) )

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