Re: [vox-tech] Export MySQL DB to flat file

["matthew lange" <matthewlangeMAPS@hotmail.com>]

Dylan,

Even if I knew how to make flat files from MySQL, I wouldn't tell you...and 
here's why:

I take particular interest in this article.  While I tend to eschew MS as a 
whole (...yeah right, as my email comes from Hotmail--well FYI hotheads 
[some of whom I've heard from privately], I got this email address before MS 
bought them!!!), I would consider myself a relative expert in MSSQL, and 
actually enjoy the product.  I have had great success using it in 
combination with Open Source Front Ends, and Open Source middle tier 
business app.s...(mainly Java, but some PHP, and some Python).

That said...these people are complete ignoramuses.  If they don't realize 
that all they need is an ODBC driver for MySQL in order to access the DB 
directly from MSSQL, (which is always more preferable than converting the 
data to flat files), and that they can then populate their own MSSQL local 
tables through querying what MS calls a 'linked server' (--formerly referred 
to by MS as a 'remote server'),which is just a regular query to the MySQL 
server--then they don't really know their own product very well, and you 
want to be as far from them as possible.

If I were you, I would, in front of the appropriate authority figure, 
espouse the benefits of accessing the 'real' data, as it is stored on MySQL, 
rather than capitulating to the ignorance of the hack (i.e. definitely not 
"hacker"), who is staking his/her claim to your data, and relying on an 
inferior method of data transfer through flat files.

I can explain this to you if you like...but you can probably find the 
information you need on Microsoft.com or MSDN.

...My 2 cents.

Don't give 'em shit...give 'em the straight poop, and stand-up for what is 
right...at least technically...regardless of platform.

By the way...while it is always painful to see a curtain closing on your 
window of influence...just take it in stride, knowing that you are bound for 
far more important things.

Oh, and one more thing, now that the Open Source DBs are becoming more 
robust...I am definitely being swayed in their direction.

Cheers,

matthew




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On Monday 25 October 2004 12:52 pm, Rod Roark wrote:
> On Monday 25 October 2004 12:20 pm, Dylan Beaudette wrote:
> ...
>
> > We had a beautiful system for managing about 500 volunteers written in
> > PHP/MySQL and running on a linux machine, that was set to be moved to a
> > MacOS X box for permenant use... Now it would seem that after some
> > re-shuffling of administrative departments this is no longer the case,
> > and they want the application re-written in ASP/MS-SQL...
>
> All that for 500 volunteers?  I wonder how that will work
> out in terms of development expense per volunteer.  Sounds
> like someone wants MS SQL on their resume.
>

Actually, it sounds like a department that refuses to support, or even put 
up
with anything non-MS... even existing systems that need only be hosted.

ah well...

Dylan

PS: thanks David and Mark for the ideas!
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