Re: [vox-tech] Talks, mentoring, etc...
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Re: [vox-tech] Talks, mentoring, etc...
Well, I talked with Jennifer and she is alright with me having people
over to the house a couple of times a month. So, I am willing to host a
small group (3-5) for cooperative study or mentoring. Is anyone
interested? If so, let me know what days/times would be good. Also, we
need to discuss a topic. I for one would love to learn even more about
debian package management system, both how to make a package and how to
setup a debian mirror or partial mirror (apt-move and apt-proxy I
believe). I should have a system with enough disk space now.
>begin Stephen M. Helms <Mytho_X@pacbell.net>
>>Maybe we could even have a group mentoring project?
> Sounds good. What format were you thinking of?
> As Pete said it's always a problem finding people who
>who have time and interest in doing the organization or prep work.
>Finding bodies to come to things is easy. If no one from lugod wants
>to show there is always the CS Club... ;)
> I've been thinking about trying to put together a hacking party,
>or some sort of local hacking group. Basically people meet and
>work on some coding/debugging project for a few hours... but I don't
>think I'd be able to interest enough skilled people to put in effort
>in organizing. Some of the formats I was thinking about would support
>little mentor sessions before and during.
>On Friday 12 April 2002 10:29 am, Peter Jay Salzman wrote:
>>i think this was the point of the 10-20 minute talk thing i wanted to do
>>at lugod meetings. we had a few of them.
> I agree the mini-talks are good... easy to find something to talk about
>for 10 minutes, easy to prepare, doesn't bore people to death if they are
>not interested but it only lasts a short while.
> A few weeks back I asked Bill to give a short 10 minute demo of the mmap
>interprocess communication and process state freeze/thaw stuff I did at
>your place a few weeks back. A few people may be very interested in
>using it, some may find it interesting to hear about, the others the
>material would go way over or wouldn't care (not applicable to them).
> Since seti@Home was being presented, Bill suggested doing it at the
>next meeting instead (I'm glad I didn't cut into the Seti@Home time,
>very interesting talk).
> The last meeting being April 15th was bad, scheduling that day is always
>complex (when I owe I wait till the last day to mail, and sometimes
>things get complex, the last two years I've found myself walking past
>hundred of stopped cars in West Sac a few minutes before midnight :).
> So I'm very glad I didn't try to demo last meeting too, but would like
>to give a quick demo of the mmap stuff... maybe at the next meeting.
>Other mini-talks subjects I'd be interested in covering that come
>to mind right now are:
> - mmap IPC, realtime monitoring, and freeze/thaw of running program.
> - Debian packaging system short tricks (dpkg -L/-S, ac search/show,
> ag -yu/update/upgrade, zgrep Contents, debsums)
> - netselect (and netselect-apt).
> - Debian reportbug
> - how to locally mirror Debian...
> - Fun With Poll (how to have a single process serve thousands).
>>i can give a 10 minute talk on marks and registers in vi which would be
>>a nice complement to verbus's presentation. i can also give a 10 minute
>>talk on using strace, although mike would be more suited for this.
> I thought I gave a talk to lugod about strace already, a good while
>back. If there is still interest I've certainly done a few more bizarre
>things with it since then, which I can only explain. (Can not demonstrate
>because I don't have access to the code to do a demonstration anymore and
>it would take motivation to recreate something that complex right now).
>the cream of the pile:
> - real-time generation of transaction server logs from strace output.
> - millisecond timing of message flows in Oracle database servers.
>(those might fit in 10 mins, no more than 15).
> or I could just cover strace's main useful purposes... figure out
>what a program is doing.
>On Sat, Apr 13, 2002 at 12:01:22PM -0700, Rusty Minden wrote:
>>I have an interest in mentoring both to mentor and be mentored.
>>My questions would be:
>>1 Who is interested.
>>2 When would you like to meet.
>>3 [...] interest paths
>>4 What are the limits.
>>5 [...] you should be expected to mentor another.
>1 - interested in both.
>2 - some weekend day, maybe as much as twice a month.
>3 - many. really want an overview of packages that fit a category
> (strengths and weaknesses) rather than in-depth material
> on one option. This is because it's normally not hard finding docs
> and learning a particular app once you know it does what you want and
> it's best in class (so you don't waste time).
>4 - What I would recommend is any questions are free game at the talk
> or during discussion after the talk. Then after the session breaks
> up only questions via public mailing lists (unless you are being paid
> or want to).
>5 - I agree the objective is good... continued flow of knowledge, but
> it's hard to arrange. Many people who want to learn things don't know
> something well enough to be of interest to others... and I think most
> people don't learn something well enough to be able to teach others
> until they use it for a while.
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