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[vox-tech] Re: vfat and permissions - anyone seen this before?
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[vox-tech] Re: vfat and permissions - anyone seen this before?

>**Original Message**
>From: Ryan <ryan@mother.com>
>To: vox-tech@lists.lugod.org
>Subject: Re: [vox-tech] vfat and permissions - anyone seen this before?
>Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 18:24:34 -0800
>Reply-To: vox-tech@lists.lugod.org
>Hash: SHA1
>Vfat has some permission flags, hidden, system, archive, and read only.
>Perhaps you had one of these set?
>Windows usualy uses hidden and system to keep people from finding the sys=
>files to mess with them (windows won't let you see them unless you tell i=
>t to=20
>byy ajusting some settings.)
I thought of that but discounted it because I was always able to drag 
files into those directories under Windows.

However, when I got your answer, I did a little bit of experimentation 
using my roommate's computer, and a FAT formatted floppy disk. I touched 
two files and created two folders on that floppy and proceeded to make 
one of each read-only (using chmod -x):

drwxr-xr-x    2 bloom    bloom         512 Mar 11 19:16 dir1/
-rwxr-xr-x    1 bloom    bloom           0 Mar 11 19:16 file1*
-r-xr-xr-x    1 bloom    bloom           0 Mar 11 19:16 filetobereadonly*
dr-xr-xr-x    2 bloom    bloom         512 Mar 11 19:16 readonlydir/

I took the disk to my roommate's XP computer, and put it in. I looked at 
the files and folders that were read-only there, and the list didn't 
agree (although there were clearly some read-only files and dirs and 
some read-write files and dirs).

I found I was able to drag files into the read-only directories under 
windows, which may lend truth to the situation.

I was about to ask if anybody knew of official documenation about this, 
but then I found the kernel code that seems to explain this:

/*  /usr/src/linux/include/linux/msdos_fs.h line 192   */
#define MSDOS_MKMODE(a,m) (m & (a & ATTR_RO ? S_IRUGO|S_IXUGO : S_IRWXUGO))
(if the Read-Only attribute is set, permissions should be UMASK & 0555 
otherwise they should be UMASK & 0777 )

In the reverse direction,
if the file is not writable by everyone (it it isn't ugo+w) then the 
read-only bit will be set.

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